The phone conversation records about the 28-point peace plan for Ukraine between two of Putin's core advisors
Below is a phone record from October 29, with the participants being Yuri Ushakov (Putin's most senior foreign policy advisor) and Kirill Dmitriev (economic advisor to the Russian president).
This record was compiled by Bloomberg after reviewing the phone recording.
Ushakov: Hello.
Dmitriev: Yuri Viktorovich.
Ushakov: Yes, Kirill Alexandrovich. I have already sent everything. We can talk in detail tomorrow.
Dmitriev: Okay, that's great, yes, yes. I'm currently in Saudi Arabia. However, I think this matter is very important because it's a very good way forward.
Ushakov: Hmm, we should try our best to make things right, don't you think? Otherwise, what's the point in sending it over?
Dmitriev: No, listen to me. I think we should first prepare this document according to our position, and I will pass it on in an informal way, clearly stating that it is completely informal. Then they can handle it under their own name. Of course, I estimate they won't just copy our version, but they will try to move towards ours.
Ushakov: That's the problem. They might not adopt it, but then say it was agreed upon between us and them. That's what I'm worried about.
Dmitriev: No, no. I will express it exactly as you said, word for word.
Ushakov: They may still change their minds later, like that. There is indeed this risk. Well, let's see.
Dmitriev: Yes, I think you can also talk to Steve about this document later. We will handle it properly.
Ushakov: (inaudible)
Dmitriev: Thank you very much, Yuri Viktorovich. Really, thank you. Goodbye. (Tianyi)
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